Departure of Warren Tucker from SIS to be announced in 2012

Will departure of Warren Tucker from SIS be announced in before 2012?

Contract pays $1 for announcement of departure. Contract is tied to timing of announcement not date of departure.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2011 02:57PM by admin.

For the avoidance of doubt, admin's post above should probably read "before 2012".

In the contract's long definition, should:

- "and it is announced in 2012 that Dr Tucker will not be the first person to hold that position"

actually be:

- "and it is announced before 2012 that Dr Tucker will not be the first person to hold that position"?

Correction made, thanks

I still don't understand why the use of the potentially confusing terminology.

This isn't a new discussion, but surely better to say:

XXX will happen in 2011

rather than:

XXX will happen before 2012

Make the exact closing time be 23:59hrs on 31 Dec 2011.

Alan.

Before XXXX is a catch all that works for year ended whether it is this year or the next, or this month or the next, and that's helpful for standardisation, which makes a contract easier to draft and, I hope, easier to follow. 'Before October 2011' is more parsimonious than 'by 11:59pm 30 September 2011' and actually less confusing, because you know someone is going to want to know if 11:59 is included or not.

What is confusing about 'before 2012'? What can that be confused with? I don't understand the objection. Surely if most contracts use the term it is not difficult to get to grips with.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2011 05:33PM by admin.

I think "Before 1st Jan 2012" is better than "Before 31st December 2011 11:59:59pm".

In a separate but related issue, try and avoid the use of "by" wherever possible because it's not clear if the day you state is inclusive or exclusive - "XYZ to happen by October 1" - would such a contract be finalised on 1st October, or the 2nd?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2011 05:49PM by Lanthanide.

Yes, agreed. It occasionally slips through does 'by' and it's ugly.